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Old 03-20-2017, 12:42 AM   #10561
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They can pump out as many of these entertaining events as they like, but if the main events and title fights continue to suck then it doesn't matter.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:45 AM   #10562
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They can pump out as many of these entertaining events as they like, but if the main events and title fights continue to suck then it doesn't matter.
Yeah, exactly.

I didn't really feel any real excitement or interest in any of the fights.

"oh, that is neat I guess" was about as excited as I got.
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Old 03-20-2017, 02:28 PM   #10563
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But I just don't care anymore.
It's hard to care when the titles have less legitimacy than the titles in the WWE.

You have two titles held hostage by a fighter who wants to be a boxer.

A third one is lined up for a title fight with a fighter who hasn't fought in how long?!?! And I'm Canadian and GSP fan but that just isn't right.

And the LHW is hard to take serious because the real champ is a royal fuckup...
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Old 03-20-2017, 04:56 PM   #10564
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The more I read this thread lately the more 'casual' I feel, lol.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:41 PM   #10565
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And they are screwing the sport in the process, losing interesting contenders and prospects to other organizations, abandoning the international growth and throwing together nonsensical title fights.
I was shocked to see Larkin recently left for Bellator. That dude is really good. Now Bader. Awhile ago, Rory. Who else?
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:29 PM   #10566
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:57 PM   #10567
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I was shocked to see Larkin recently left for Bellator. That dude is really good. Now Bader. Awhile ago, Rory. Who else?
Fighters who have gone to Bellator, I did not include fighters that were on losing streaks and was cut but fighters that still has some relevancy or big sellers:

Heavyweights:
Matt Mitrione

205:
Phil Davis
Ryan Bader
Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
Chael Sonnen (Roiding cheater though so understandable)
Wanderlei Silva (Roiding cheater though so understandable)

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Lorenz Larkin
Rory MacDonald

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Josh Thomson
Benson Henderson

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205:
Nikita Krylov

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Michael McDonald

125:
Kyoji Horiguchi

There are also fighters like Rick Story that feel like it isn't worth it anymore and might just retire from fighting instead of resigning a shitty deal with the UFC.
And I feel like I am forgetting someone...

An interesting aspect of this that I forgot about is the antitrust lawsuit they are fighting in court at the moment.
By letting ranked fighters go they are making it harder to argue that they have a monopoly.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:50 PM   #10568
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None of those are a big loss for the UFC. They're all good fighters, many of them aging and had their time in the UFC, many are unmarketable for whatever reason, or had their run in the UFC and will probably make their way back.

Hoping this is a transition phase for the UFC and we can gain some sort of stability. I fear it may turn fully into boxing after this Mayweather/McGregor fight happens, where anyone who is even remotely marketable just holds out for big money fights and fuck the belts and weight divisions because who cares. That may be the world that we're headed for.
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Old 03-21-2017, 01:05 AM   #10570
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None of those are a big loss for the UFC.
Individually no, but with so many ranked fighters leaving the ranks it leaves whole divisions uninteresting. LHW has always been thin and top heavy, the UFC cant afford to let ranked fighters just go like that.

The 125 division has been struggling since its inception and Horiguchi was one of the best and most exciting in it.

And for me, this is a huge reason to why I no longer care.

McGregor vs. Mayweather, bring it, or I don't care.
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McGregor vs. Mayweather, bring it, or I don't care.
Fuck it, I'm officially buying into the hype. I started an event to gauge interest on facebook and invited 55+ people. If this shit happens I'm gonna make it a fucking blast.
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Is legitimacy of belts a big issue for people? I've never been too concerned in any combat sport. Individual titles in boxing mean fuck all, but people still turn out to watch.
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Is legitimacy of belts a big issue for people? I've never been too concerned in any combat sport. Individual titles in boxing mean fuck all, but people still turn out to watch.
I feel like, for the most part, in the past the UFC has made it a point to keep the belts legitimate. One could complain about too many immediate rematches, sure, but they rarely gave out title shots or sherked the rankings in favor of setting up "big money" fights. Once Conor opens that door, it may never close again.
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Old 03-22-2017, 08:43 AM   #10575
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BJ Penn isn't done yet. He is fighting Denis Siver at Fight Night 112, 25 June, Oklahoma City.
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BJ Penn isn't done yet. He is fighting Denis Siver at Fight Night 112, 25 June, Oklahoma City.
Jesus fuck.... why?
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Dunno man. At least this is a winnable fight though
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Jesus fuck.... why?
I ask myself this every time....
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kinda where im at. I don't mind this fight. yair fucking rodiguez? yeah I minded that. he can beat siver. siver is cool but he isn't that cool.
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You guys have more hope than I do at this point. I'm terrified every time I see him step out there nowadays. I worry about him even against Siver. Siver won't be a title holder but I don't see him as a slouch either.
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I don't either. its more of an even match up though all things given. just said he CAN beat him not that he would.
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I'm not sure I need to see old champs take fights to test how far they've fallen. Siver isn't springboarding off a win over BJ to a title shot either. It's like watching bum fights, but with guys who didn't use to be bums...

I guess I don't mind them getting work, in fact I'd love to see them headline a local event, but in the UFC it seems pointless.
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